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Spain set to become the first European country to introduce a 3-day ‘menstrual leave’ for women
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Spain set to become the first European country to introduce a 3-day ‘menstrual leave’ for women
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It seems like it would be more efficient to just give people days off for whatever they need rather than make it specific to one thing.
Since no one seems to have any idea what they’re talking about, sick days in Spain are unlimited and paid for by the government. Anyone who has periods bad enough that they can’t work can get them off sick currently (and they already do, as I’ve seen many times with my coworkers). I guess the law just makes it easier since until now you had to physically go to the doctor to get the doctor’s note, which no one in terrible pain wants.
Edit – People are pointing out that the three first days aren’t paid. Let’s not mistake the very minimum the law mandates with what actually happens; specific work conditions are regulated by convenio colectivo and they are always above that minimum. I would like to know exactly what sectors the people talking about three unpaid days work on, because I have worked a variety of shitty jobs in my life and never had a single day unpaid for being sick. When I had employees it was my business partner in charge of payroll so maybe we as a company did not get paid those three days, but he still sent the medical “baja” to the Seguridad Social for refund and never mentioned anything when our employees got sick. They got the usual one day upset stomach to 3-5 days flu, never anything that took longer.
Still, it doesn’t change anything. In Spain some women are already taking sick days for horrible periods, just like some men are taking sick days for their own reasons. This law doesn’t mean that suddenly every woman in Spain is going to take a monthly extra vacation week.
I don’t know how I feel about this, does it reduce their pay, does it make a woman less valuable to them verses an identical man.
Like on one hand I think it’s fantastic a woman can take a few days off when she’s got her period, I know I’d hate to work with cramps & stuff. But I do worry that it might make business less likely to hire women, and/or women less valuable.
I don’t think codifying the ridiculous idea that women are 10% less productive than men is a good thing.
I’m a guy I don’t get periods but I know my mom and my sister particularly my sister gets it so bad she has to stay home from school when that time of the month comes around.
And I guess from how I understand it every woman’s period is different from another so I hope this helps those who have severe pain and such
Wage gap **intensifies*
This is gonna make employers hire fewer women just like the maternity leave thing. They should make it non specific to the issue, like three personal days or mental health days.
I saw somewhere that sick days are unlimited in Spain so I wonder why this exists
Wouldn’t this just make it harder for women to get hired?
All of this sounds great, but when you have 2 employees apply, both with exactly the same qualifications, one is male and one female, why would you hire the female over the male ever knowing you lose them a few days a month extra due to this?
Seems like the majority of the people commenting they are against it didn’t bother to actually read the article. This is not for every female, this is for a small group that truly has terrible symptoms during periods. As a woman with endometriosis, I have used all my PTO and UPT to take care of my symptoms because the pain was so bad I couldn’t even move. Also, Spain is not the first country to implement this, it mentions other countries where this is already in place and I don’t see people crying about coworkers working less. To the ones talking trans why would a trans need this? MTF don’t have a female reproductive system to get periods and FTM take medications that mostly eliminates period so again why would they need this time off?
so… less reasons to hire women? As an employer why would i pay for someone who works 10% less but receives the same?
Seems like this would just decrease the likelihood of women being hired.
I usually only have one really bad day during my period and I would love to have that day off just so I can lay in bed and be miserable.
That just sounds like less reasons for an employer to hire women.
A genuine question, isn’t this a net negative for the female population? For there to be days where you are given leave due to a bodily function, on some level there is an acknowledgement that women are physically unable to do their job due to menstruation. Understanding this, if you go up the ladder to the more important/responsible positions, why would employers hire a person who won’t be able to do their job for almost a week at a time every month? For a job that is vital and required 24/7 attention, wouldn’t this be a hindrance?
Seems good in theory. Women have the option to use it, but don’t *have* to if their periods aren’t bad. It’s a pro-labor market right now, so this is the right time to push for these sorts of programs.
My wife gets terrible cramps prior to her cycle. I would like for her to at least have the option to take a day or two off so she can take some pamprin and curl up in a ball.
Will this discourage employers from hiring women even more?
How is this not covered by sick leave already?
Most jobs I’ve had would figure put a way to fire anyone who regularly used those days. I worked in an industry where calling out sick in general was looked at with contempt.
The only thing im worried about is will this not make it less likely for employers to hire women? If they legally have to give those days off only to women its more beneficial to hire more men no?
And just like that, periods no longer fell on the weekend for 9-5’ers in Spain.
Just so I get this right, the government is mandating that women must get an extra three days off from work? Exactly how might this affect the competitive market for jobs? They’re basically mandating that men be more productive.
Looks good and progressive on paper.
But it’ll have a detrimental effect on women’s career prospects and pay. Employers are just gonna be hesitant to hire women and I doubt this menstrual leave will include full pay which would lead to a bigger wage gap.
Lots of unintended consequences will come of this.
If this was in the US, half of adult women would complain it isn’t fair because some women already had menopause and would be having their tax dollars pay for their coworkers to take leave each month.
The dudes finally decided they didn’t want to deal with it either.
I’d be in menopause and still take the leave!